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Fiat Croma Factory Service Manual (2005-2010)22 · Fault diagnosis
22 · Diagnostics

Climate control not working (under any circumstances)

Make
Fiat
Model
Croma Factory Service Manual
Year
2005–2010
Section
Climate control › Climate control not working (under any circumstances)
Fault diagnosisClimate control not working (under any circumstances)

CLIMATE CONTROL NOT WORKING (UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)

MANUAL AIR CONDITIONING

When the on/off switch is pressed, the climate control does not work.

0PRELIMINARY CHECKSALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION

Check:

  • the condition of climate control system protective fuses

See E6020 AIR CONDITIONING

  • that the climate control system gas pressure is correct

See Test 5040OB CHECK ON OPERATION OF AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM (PRESSURE)

  • the correct operation of the engine cooling fan.
Move on to Step 11.Fuses blown1.Change the blown fuses
2.Relay damaaged2.Replace the relay
3.Gas pressure not correct3.Search for and eliminate leaks and top up climate control system to correct level
4.Incorrect operation of engine cooling fan.

4.Carry out the test.

See Test 5040AB REFRIGERANT CIRCUIT CHECK

1CHECK ON COMPRESSOR OPERATION BY MANUAL CONTROLALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION
Check the following conditions: with the ambient temperature at least engine 5 °C. With the engine started and the compressor on (check that the snowflake symbol lights up), set the temperature to maximum cold and the distribution to the front position. Also check that there are no short circuits to earth for the compressor circuit by connecting the diagnostic equipment. In these conditions, check that the compressor comes on by opening the bonnet and taking a look.End of diagnosis1.The snow flake symbol in the display does not light up (but the compressor is on).1.Move on to Step 4
2.The LED with the snowflake symbol comes on (but the compressor does not switch on).2.Move on to Step 2
3.Compressor short circuit.3.Move on to Step 3
2CHECKS USING DIAGNOSTIC EQUIPMENTALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION
Connect the Examiner diagnostic equipment and check that there are no errors at the Engine Management Control UnitMove on to Step 3The engine management control unit does not give the go ahead.Continue as described by the diagnostic equipment
3CHECK USING DIAGNOSTIC EQUIPMENTALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION

Keeping the diagnostic equipment connected, check:

  • that there are no errors at the compressor operating relay;
  • that there are no errors at the climate control system pressure sensor
Move on to Step 51.Relay not working1.Replace relay T5 (it is the middle one in the right row)
2.Error at the linear sensor

2.Carry out the test

See Test 5040BC CHECK ON ENGAGEMENT/DISENGAGEMENT OF COMPRESSOR THROUGH LINEAR SENSOR

4CHECK ON CLIMATE CONTROL SYSTEM CONTROL UNIT ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONSALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION
With the engine switched off, remove the control from the dashboard support and disconnect the cable connector visually inspecting for any damage at the connector contacts and reconnect it correctly for check for any false contacts.Move on to Step 5Electrical connections loose or damaged.

Renew the electrical connections

See E6020 AIR CONDITIONING

5CHECK ON CORRECT OPERATION OF FANALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION

Check whether the electrical wiring connections are loose

See E6020 AIR CONDITIONING

Disconnect, visually inspecting for any damage at the connector contacts. Reconnect the connection at the engine mounting. Check that it turns at all speeds when activated by the switch. If it does not rotate at the maximum speed, check the maximum fan speed relay.

See J041 LEFT DOOR MIRROR ELECTRICAL ADJUSTMENT NOT WORKING

Disconnect the connector for the fan and connect to a feeder. In these conditions the engine should rotate at maximum speed indicating and the operating module is not working

Move on to Step 61.Electrical connections loose or damaged

1. Renew the electrical connections

See E6020 AIR CONDITIONING

2.Fan not working.

2.Replace the fan

Op. 1088E10 RADIATOR COOLING FAN - R + R

3.Fan only turns at the maximum speed supplied directly by the vehicle battery.3.Move on to Step 6
6CHECK ON CORRECT OPERATION OF MAXIMUM SPEED RELAYALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION

Check whether the electrical wiring connections are loose, disconnect visually inspecting for any damage at the connector contacts. Reconnect the connection to the resistor. Check the operation of the fan at the maximum speed: if it only works at the maximum speed, the relay is broken. Check whether the resistor is broken by checking the electrical continuity in accordance with the test.

See Test 5040CF SEQUENTIAL PROCEDURE FOR CHECKING OPERATION OF AIR CONDITIONING FAN RESISTOR

Move on to Step 71.Electrical connections loose or damaged.

1. Renew the electrical connections

See E6020 AIR CONDITIONING

2.Relay broken.

2.Replace the ceramic resistor

Op. 5040C48 A/C FAN MOTOR RESISTOR - R+R

3.Resistance values faulty

3.Replace the ceramic resistor

Op. 5040C48 A/C FAN MOTOR RESISTOR - R+R

7CHECK ON CORRECT OPERATION OF SPEED SELECTOR AT THE CLIMATE CONTROL SYSTEM CONTROL UNITALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION

Check whether the electrical wiring connections are loose, disconnect visually inspecting for any damage to the connector contacts. Reconnect the connection to the selector on the climate control system control unit. Check whether the selector at the control unit is broken by measuring the electrical continuity in accordance with the test

Op. 5040DF SEQUENTIAL PROCEDURE FOR CHECKING OPERATION OF AIR CONDITIONING FAN

Move on to Step 81.Electrical connections loose or damaged.

1. Renew the electrical connections

See E6020 AIR CONDITIONING

2.Fan not working.

2.Replace the speed selector knob

Op. 5040D23 KNOB (ONE) FOR ANY OF THE AIR CONDITIONING CONTROLS - R.R.

3.Power supply to the relays not correct.

3.Replace the climate control system control unit

Op. 5040D17 CONTROL UNIT WITH MANUAL AIR CONDITIONER KNOBS AND BUTTONS R R

8CHECK ON CORRECT OPERATION OF FAN MAXIMUM SPEED OPERATING RELAYSALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION
Check whether the electrical wiring connections are loose. Disconnect visually inspecting for any damage to the connector contacts. Reconnect the connection to the relay. Check that the relay is working properly by providing it with a direct 12 V supply.End of diagnosis1.Electrical connections loose or damaged

1. Renew the electrical connections

See E6020 AIR CONDITIONING

2.Maximum speed operating relay not working.

2.Replace the maximum speed operating relay

Op. 5040C48 A/C FAN MOTOR RESISTOR - R+R

AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING

When the on/off switch is pressed, the climate control does not work.

0PRELIMINARY CHECKSALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION

Check:

  • the condition of climate control system protective fuses

See E6020 AIR CONDITIONING

  • that the climate control system gas pressure is correct

See Test 5040OB CHECK ON OPERATION OF AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM (PRESSURE)

  • the correct operation of the engine cooling fan.
Move on to Step 11.Fuses blown1.Change the blown fuses
2.Relay damaaged2.Replace the relay
3.Gas pressure not correct3.Search for and eliminate leaks and top up climate control system to correct level
4.Incorrect operation of engine cooling fan.

4.Carry out the test.

See Test 5040AB REFRIGERANT CIRCUIT CHECK

1CHECK ON OPERATION OF COMPRESSOR BY CLIMATE CONTROL SYSTEM CONTROL UNITALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION
Check the following conditions: with the ambient temperature at least 5 °C and the outside temperature reading above 5 °C. With the engine started and the compressor on (check that the snowflake symbol in the display lights up), set the control unit to the AUTO position, the temperature to maximum cold LO and the distribution to the front position. Also check that there are no short circuits to earth for the compressor circuit or any errors on the CAN line by connecting the diagnostic equipment. In these conditions, check that the compressor comes on by opening the bonnet and taking a look.End of diagnosis1.The snow flake symbol in the display does not light up (but the compressor is on).1.Move on to Step 3
2.The LED with the snowflake symbol comes on (but the compressor does not switch on).2.Move on to Step 2
3.The outside temperature reading is incorrect.3.Move on to Step 3
4.Compressor short circuit.4.Move on to Step 3
5.Errors on CAN line5.Move on to Step 4
2CHECKS USING DIAGNOSTIC EQUIPMENTALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION

Keeping the diagnostic equipment connected check that there are no errors:

  • at the climate control node;
  • at the Engine management control unit.
Move on to Step 31.Climate control node not working.1.Move on to Step 4
2.The engine management control unit does not give the go ahead.2. Continue as instructed by the diagnostic equipment
3CHECKS USING DIAGNOSTIC EQUIPMENTALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION

Keeping the diagnostic equipment connected, check the following at the Climate Control Node:

  • that there are no errors at the compressor operating relay
  • that there are no errors at the climate control system pressure sensor
  • that there are no faults in the outside temperature sensor
  • that there are no errors at the fan
  • the condition of the compressor operating wiring (no short circuits or open circuits)

Keeping the diagnostic equipment connected, enter active diagnosis and check that all the graphic symbols in the display come on following the Autotest procedure.

Move on to Step 51.Relay not working1.Replace relay T5 (it is the middle one in the right row)
2.Error at the linear sensor

2.Carry out the test.

See Test 5040BC CHECK ON ENGAGEMENT/DISENGAGEMENT OF COMPRESSOR THROUGH LINEAR SENSOR

3.Error (short circuit or open circuit) at the outside temperature sensor.

3.Restore the correct wiring for the outside temperature sensor

See E6020 AIR CONDITIONING

4.Error at the outside temperature sensor

4.Replace the outside temperature sensor

Op. 5010D12 OUTSIDE AIR TEMPERATURE SENSOR ON DOOR MIRROR - R+R FOLLOWING ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT CHECK

5.Short circuit error at the fan.

5.Check the electrical connections

See E5020 ENGINE COOLING

6.Fan operating error6.Move on to Step 6
7.Compressor wiring broken.

7.Restore the correct wiring

See E6021 COMPRESSOR ENGAGEMENT

8.The snowflake symbol in the display does not light up in the display (but the compressor is on)

8.Replace the climate control system control unit

Op. 5040D15 CONTROL UNIT WITH AUTOMATIC DUAL ZONE AIR CONDITIONER KNOBS AND BUTTONS - R.R.

4CHECK ON CLIMATE CONTROL NODE ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONSALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION

With the engine switched off, remove the control unit from the dashboard mounting,

Op. 5040D15 CONTROL UNIT WITH AUTOMATIC DUAL ZONE AIR CONDITIONER KNOBS AND BUTTONS - R.R.

and disconnect the cable connector from the control unit visually inspecting for any damage at the connector contacts and reconnect it correctly to check for any false contacts.

Move on to Step 51.Electrical connections loose or damaged.

1.Restore the loose or damaged electrical connections

See E6020 AIR CONDITIONING

2.The electrical connections are not loose

2.Replace the climate control system control unit

Op. 5040D15 CONTROL UNIT WITH AUTOMATIC DUAL ZONE AIR CONDITIONER KNOBS AND BUTTONS - R.R.

5CHECK ON CORRECT OPERATION OF FAN BY CLIMATE CONTROL SYSTEM CONTROL UNITALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION
With the engine started, set the climate control system control unit to the AUTO position, adjust the temperature to 22 °C, place the recirculation at the outside air intake and the distribution to the front position. Adjust the fan button (+ side) gradually increasing the speed set and then decrease the speed using the button (- side), thereby checking the effect of the air flow rate variation.End of diagnosisThere is no variation in the air flow rate.Move on to Step 6
6CHECK ON ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS AND FAN OPERATIONALL OKPROBLEMS ENCOUNTEREDACTION
Check whether the electrical wiring connections are loose. Disconnect/reconnect the connection to the engine mounting. Disconnect the connector and connect it to a feeder. In these conditions the engine should turn at the maximum speed indicating that the operating module is not workingEnd of diagnosis1.Electrical connections loose

1.Renew the correct connections

See E5020 ENGINE COOLING

2.The fan does not work.

2.Replace the fan

Op. 1088E10 RADIATOR COOLING FAN - R + R

3.The operating module does not work.

3.Replace the fan operating module

Op. 1088E20 RESISTOR FOR RADIATOR COOLING FAN - R + R

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