Front suspension noise (knocking)
- Make
- Fiat
- Model
- Grande Punto Factory Service Manual
- Year
- 2005–2012
- Section
- Noise / vibrations › Front suspension noise (knocking)
FRONT SUSPENSION NOISE (KNOCKING)
Whilst driving, especially on unmade roads, there is knocking coming from the front suspension. This diagnosis can only be made after the diagnosis.
See table S015 NOISE WHILST DRIVING
Carry out the latter first.
If the problem is only on one side, carry out the checks and any operations on the appropriate side only.
| Test results | ||||
| 0 | PRELIMINARY CHECKS | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
|---|---|---|---|---|
After carrying out a road test during the diagnosis, a noise is heard from the front identifiable as knocking. See table S015 NOISE WHILST DRIVING Continue depending on the circumstances in which the noise occurs | End of diagnosis | 1. The noise disappears when the brake pedal is operated. 2. The noise only occurs whilst accelerating or braking with the wheels steered. 3. The noise is also present in other conditions | 1. Check the clearances for the front brake calipers and lubricate the wheel bolt pins 2. Replace the wheel bearing on the side where the problem occurs, positioning it with the magnetic race towards the steering knuckle ring. This bearing is used by the ABS active sensors to calculate the wheel speed. It should NEVER come into contact with metal shavings because they could alter the gap and prevent a correct reading from the sensor 3. Move on to Step 1 | |
| 1 | OIL LEAKS CHECK | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
Raise the vehicle on a two column lift and check that there are no oil leaks from the shock absorber stem, lifting up the dust cover. Slight dampness on the stem is considered normal because there is evaporation during the operation of the shock absorber. If there is a persistent oil leak on the shock absorber stem, make sure that it is not coming from other parts of the vehicle that are lubricated | Move on to Step 2 | 1. Leaks from other parts that are lubricated 2. Leaks from the shock absorber stem | 1. Search for the cause of the leak following the appropriate diagnostic procedure 2. Replace the shock absorber | |
| 2 | CHECK ON CONSTANT VELOCITY JOINT SLIDING | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
For the 1.3 JTD, 1.9 JTD; Raise the vehicle on a two column lift and rotate the front wheels by hand. Make sure that there are no impediments to the movement or noise during rotation | Move on to Step 3 | Constant velocity joint seized | Replace the constant velocity joint Op. 2710A10 DRIVESHAFT WITH JOINTS (ONE), L/H OR R/H - R + R | |
| 2 | CHECK ON CONSTANT VELOCITY JOINT SLIDING | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
For the 1.2 8v, 1.4 8v; Raise the vehicle on a two column lift and rotate the front wheels by hand. Make sure that there are no impediments to the movement or noise during rotation | Move on to Step 3 | Constant velocity joint seized | Replace the constant velocity joint | |
| 3 | CHECK ON CORRECT TIGHTENING OF DIFFERENTIAL SIDE JOINT FLANGE | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
| Check that the bolts fixing the differential side joint flange are correctly tightened | Move on to Step 4 | Torque tightenings not correct | Restore the correct tightening | |
| 4 | CHECK ON INTERFERENCE BETWEEN DRIVESHAFTS AND SURROUNDING PARTS | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
| Check that there is no interference between the driveshafts and adjacent parts (track control arms, front crossmember). | Move on to Step 5 | Interference between the driveshafts and adjacent parts | Restore the correct tightening of the elements causing interference | |
| 5 | CHECK ON CONSTANT VELOCITY JOINT EFFICIENCY | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
For the 1.3 JTD, 1.9 JTD; Try and move the driveshaft and check that there is not excessive clearance for the constant velocity joints | Move on to Step 6 | 1. Gearbox side constant velocity joint chamber broken 2. Wheel side constant velocity joint chamber broken 3. Wheel side joint worn | 1. Replace the constant velocity joint 2. Replace the constant velocity joint 3.Replace the constant velocity joint | |
| 5 | CHECK ON CONSTANT VELOCITY JOINT EFFICIENCY | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
For the 1.2 8v, 1.4 8v; Try and move the driveshaft and check that there is not excessive clearance for the constant velocity joints | Move on to Step 6 | 1. Gearbox side constant velocity joint chamber broken 2. Wheel side constant velocity joint chamber broken 3. Wheel side joint worn | 1. Replace the constant velocity joint 2. Replace the constant velocity joint 3.Replace the constant velocity joint | |
| 6 | WHEEL SIDE BOOTS AND WHEEL BEARINGS CHECK | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
For the 1.3 JTD, 1.9 JTD; Check the condition of the wheel side boot. If it is not intact, check that there are no leaks or no grease in the actual boot If everything is okay and the noise was more pronounced whilst steering, check the wheel bearings | Move on to Step 7 | 1. Boot broken 2. Grease leaks/No grease 3. Wheel bearing faulty | 1. Replace the boot 2. Renew the correct amount of grease of the appropriate type 3. Replace the wheel bearing on the side where the problem occurs, positioning it with the magnetic race towards the steering knuckle ring. | |
| 6 | WHEEL SIDE BOOTS AND WHEEL BEARINGS CHECK | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
For the 1.2 8v, 1.4 8v; Check the condition of the wheel side boot. If it is not intact, check that there are no leaks or no grease in the actual boot If everything is okay and the noise was more pronounced whilst steering, check the wheel bearings | Move on to Step 7 | 1. Boot broken 2. Grease leaks/No grease 3. Wheel bearing faulty | 1. Replace the boot 2. Renew the correct amount of grease of the appropriate type 3. Replace the wheel bearing on the side where the problem occurs, positioning it with the magnetic race towards the steering knuckle ring. | |
| 7 | INTERFERENCE CHECK | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
Check that there are no signs of interference between the suspension elements or between the latter and the bodyshell. In particular, check that there are no signs of wear on the suspension springs and that they do not show signs of abrasion. If the spring shows signs of abrasion, its mechanical properties could be weakened as a result of oxidation. | Move on to Step 8 | 1. Inteference due to incorrect fitting. 2. Abrasions or non conformity of the spring | 1. Eliminate the interference and restore the correct fastening. If this is not possible, replace the defective components 2. Replace the spring taking care to fit it correctly | |
| 8 | TRACK CONTROL ARM CHECK | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
Check that there is no clearance between the ball joint pin and the steering knuckle and between the ball joint flange and the track control arms and make sure that the boot is intact. In order to do this it is necessary to remove the guard under the engine, then loosen the bolt connecting the track control arm to the front steering knuckle. Op. 7055B54 UNDER ENGINE PROTECTION/GUARD - R.R. Also check the condition of the suspension bushes. | Move on to Step 9 | 1. Track control arm clearance 2. Ball joint boot not intact 3. Track control arm front bush not intact 4. Track control arm rear bush not intact | 1. Replace the track rod end 2. Replace the track rod end 3. Replace the track control arm front bush Op. 4410B50 BUSHES FOR L/H OR R/H FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER TRACK CONTROL ARM - REPLACE AT BENCH 4. Replace the track control arm rear bush Op. 4410B52 FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER TRACK CONTROL ARM REAR BUSH LEFT OR RIGHT - REPLACE AT BENCH | |
| 9 | DIFFERENTIAL SIDE BOOT CHECK | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
For the 1.3 JTD, 1.9 JTD; Check the condition of the differential side boot. If it is not intact, check that there are no leaks or no grease in the actual boot | Move on to Step 10 | 1. Boot broken 2. Grease leaks/No grease | 1. Replace the boot 2. Renew the correct amount of grease of the appropriate type | |
| 9 | DIFFERENTIAL SIDE BOOT CHECK | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
For the 1.2 8v, 1.4 8v; Check the condition of the differential side boot. If it is not intact, check that there are no leaks or no grease in the actual boot | Move on to Step 10 | 1. Boot broken 2. Grease leaks/No grease | 1. Replace the boot 2. Renew the correct amount of grease of the appropriate type | |
| 10 | WHEEL SIDE JOINT TIGHTENING CHECK | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
1.3 JTD, 1.9 JTD; Remove the left and/or right wheel. Op. 4450B02 LEFT FRONT WHEEL - R.R Op. 4450B04 RIGHT FRONT WHEEL - R.R Check that the constant velocity joint fastening nut is tightened and that the staking is in place. | Move on to Step 11 | Nut loosening | Replace the nut, restore the torque tightening and stake | |
| 10 | WHEEL SIDE JOINT TIGHTENING CHECK | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
1.2 8v, 1.4 8v; Remove the left and/or right wheel. Op. 4450B02 LEFT FRONT WHEEL - R.R Op. 4450B04 RIGHT FRONT WHEEL - R.R Check that the constant velocity joint fastening nut is tightened and that the staking is in place. | Move on to Step 11 | Nut loosening | Replace the nut, restore the torque tightening and stake | |
| 11 | TIGHTENING TORQUE CHECK | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
Locate the area of the possible noise source: top or bottom. Starting from the area where the knocking was identified, check the tightening torques for the standard fixing bolts: See Test 4410OA CHECKS ON CORRECT TIGHTENINGS FOR FRONT SUSPENSION - fastening shock absorber stem to mounting on turret; - fastening shock absorber stem to end of travel plate on turret; - fastening track rod end to steering knuckle; - front fastening securing crossmember to body side member; - rear inner fastening securing crossmember to body side member; - rear outer fastening securing crossmember to body side member; - anti-roll bar to crossmember fastenings; - fastenings on power assisted steering box crossmember; - fastenings securing band to crossmember; (not for 1.2 8v version) - connecting rod between anti-roll bar and shock absorber fastenings; - front brake caliper fastenings. Visually inspect that the yield point type bolts have not loosened, the list is given below: - steering knuckle to shock absorber bracket fastening; - fastening for front bush to the track control arm; - fastening for rear bush to the track control arm; - fastening securing engine suspension connecting rod to crossmember. Also check that the four special anti-slip washers are present where the crossmember is attached to the bodyshell at the rear (inside and outside). | Move on to Step 12 | 1. Tightenings for standard bolts not correct 2. Shear bolts loosened 3. Special anti-slip washers not present / worn | 1. Restore the correct tightening 2. Replace the shear bolts and restore the correct tightness 3. Place new special anti-slip washers on the (inner and outer) rear mountings between the crossmember and the bodyshell. | |
| 12 | ANTI-ROLL BAR CHECK | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
After having disconnected the upper track rod end for the shock absorber connecting rod, check that the anti-roll bar does not come down quickly. See Test 4410CA CHECKS ON FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR Also check that there is not excessive clearance for the pins connected to the bar and to the shock absorber bracket. | Move on to Step 13 | 1. The anti-roll bar comes down quickly 2. Excessive clearance for the connecting rod connecting pins | 1. Replace the anti-roll bar Op. 4410C10 FRONT SUSPENSION ANTI-ROLL BAR - R+R - CHECK WHEEL GEOMETRY SEPARATELY 2. Replace the connecting rod Op. 4410C12 FRONT SUSPENSION ANTI ROLL BAR JOINT (END) (ONE), LH OR RH - R.R | |
| 13 | SHOCK ABSORBER FASTENING CHECKS | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
Remove the shock absorber and check that there is no clearance between the shock absorber mounting bearing and the rubber mounting encasing it | Move on to Step 14 | There is clearance for the bearing | Replace the mounting | |
| 14 | CHECK ON CORRECT OPERATION | All OK | Problems encountered | Operation |
| Check that the fault is no longer present | End of diagnosis | The fault persists | The fault is due to another system (engine, clutch, differential). Search for the cause in one of these systems, following the appropriate diagnostic procedures | |
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